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big debt ceiling debate to may 18. so, you have these self-imposed economic wounds, and really what we should be doing is dealing with them all at once in a comprehensive manner. if we cannot deal with it for a 10-year period, at least deal with it through the remainder of this fiscal year and that is exactly what the house democratic alternative did. we would replace that sequester with deficit reduction achieved over a longer time. in suburban maryland, represent a lot of people that would be directly affected if the sequester hits. do you think the administration is doing a good job of preparing federal workers and folks whose paychecks depend on what happens in the next few weeks for how it will work and how to plan their lives? >> we have been urging them to provide guidance to federal employees because as we get closer to the date there is more and more anxiety, understandably. they are trying to provide notice to employees about things that can be expected, but the problem is it affect each agency differently, s
big debt ceiling debate to may 18. so, you have these self-imposed economic wounds, and really what we should be doing is dealing with them all at once in a comprehensive manner. if we cannot deal with it for a 10-year period, at least deal with it through the remainder of this fiscal year and that is exactly what the house democratic alternative did. we would replace that sequester with deficit reduction achieved over a longer time. in suburban maryland, represent a lot of people that would be...
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the last time the debt ceiling fight, president obama got what he wanted by refusing to negotiate. now the top republican up here on capitol hill john boehner is taking the hard line and letting the president know it. president obama was rallying democrats for the battle over defrs cuts when house republicans sent him a message. the symbolic vote he detail how he would cut the deficit to avoid the automatic spending cuts next month. >> mr. president, you missed the deadline again. let's see your plan. let's show it to the american people and have the discussion about the proper way to manage down this debt and deficit. >> reporter: without a budget deal on march 1st so-called sequestration will force reductions in military training, cutbacks in operations, and layoffs of civilian pentagon employees plus civilian defense contractors. >> it's an idiotic management nightmare to try to run a complex sophisticated, long-term program when you have short-term, massive cuts. >> reporter: deep cuts also loom in social services. outgoing defense secretary panetta slammed democrats and republ
the last time the debt ceiling fight, president obama got what he wanted by refusing to negotiate. now the top republican up here on capitol hill john boehner is taking the hard line and letting the president know it. president obama was rallying democrats for the battle over defrs cuts when house republicans sent him a message. the symbolic vote he detail how he would cut the deficit to avoid the automatic spending cuts next month. >> mr. president, you missed the deadline again. let's...
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it's actually worked pretty good effect thus far on things like the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling. republicans will try to draw a line somewhere. i'm not sure why yet. >> they thought they could draw it on national security with chuck hagel, and we've seen in the last 48 hours the president picked up the phone and he cauldron widen. he hasn't called too many senators too often, even in his own party. he cauldron widen because they had a real obstacle, and he knew that his cia nominee, his close friend, someone he is really eager to have confirmed john brennan, was in trouble going to that hearing. now not so much trouble. >> not so much trouble. these hearings are always as much about the -- using the moment as a lever to dislodge things that congress wants as they are about the nominee himself. i don't think there were a lot of questions about john brennan's kwaul ficks for the job. if i might say to live township the transparency that's been happy to profess. can i go back to the state of the union? i want to add a little bit of a note of caution to all this presidential huffing
it's actually worked pretty good effect thus far on things like the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling. republicans will try to draw a line somewhere. i'm not sure why yet. >> they thought they could draw it on national security with chuck hagel, and we've seen in the last 48 hours the president picked up the phone and he cauldron widen. he hasn't called too many senators too often, even in his own party. he cauldron widen because they had a real obstacle, and he knew that his cia nominee, his...
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. >> at minimum we've got to raise the debt ceiling. so, that's the bare minimum that has to be achieved. >> here is what john boehner and the republicans in the house were demanding. >> the house cannot pass a bill that raises taxes on job creators. the house could only pass a debt limit bill that includes spending cuts larger than the hike in the debt limit as well as real restraints on future spending. >> and here is what john boehner said when the final bill was si signed into law with the dreaded sequester. >> when you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white house, i got 98% of what i wanted. i'm pretty happy. >> to his credit, that's how republicans lindsey graham remembers it as well. >> as john will say it with straight talk, we have our fingerprints as republicans on this proposal, on this sequestration idea. it was the president's idea, according to bob woodward's book, but we as the republican party gagreed to it. we got in this mess together and we're going to have to get out together. >> joining me now a
. >> at minimum we've got to raise the debt ceiling. so, that's the bare minimum that has to be achieved. >> here is what john boehner and the republicans in the house were demanding. >> the house cannot pass a bill that raises taxes on job creators. the house could only pass a debt limit bill that includes spending cuts larger than the hike in the debt limit as well as real restraints on future spending. >> and here is what john boehner said when the final bill was si...
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if republicans had gone into this issue and said they would not raise the debt ceiling unless they got cuts, there would have lost that the raid at the end. big loss that debate. john boehner and paul rand did a great job together. you cannot govern from that office, you but you have to be very careful about high-profile last-minute negotiations. i've worked in the white house and three administrations. the president has a tremendous institutional advantage in these kinds of fights. what republicans have to do is avoid these fights, the straps that they are laying. provide an alternative through passing legislation, just to show this is how they would govern if they had the powers of the presidency and the senate. and be careful. there are some rough edges. host: some are not strategy as far as moving the debt ceiling ahead. guest: if they had gone ahead with it, it would have been politically cataclysmic. it was the worst percival -- worst possible ground to make their point. president obama 1. i think it's absolutely crucial for the future of the country that you cannot govern from t
if republicans had gone into this issue and said they would not raise the debt ceiling unless they got cuts, there would have lost that the raid at the end. big loss that debate. john boehner and paul rand did a great job together. you cannot govern from that office, you but you have to be very careful about high-profile last-minute negotiations. i've worked in the white house and three administrations. the president has a tremendous institutional advantage in these kinds of fights. what...
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you're saying now, the debt ceiling showdown, you had a lot of republicans, leadership particularly who walked into this mess where they actually had their rank and file to do a debt default. they needed some way, any way out of it. so what the white house, the democrats put in front of them was the committee, the sequester, they were so happy to have any kind of lifeline, and john boehner comes out, pretends it is a victory, 98%, keeping the members in line. now here it is, a ticking time bomb for republicans, a year, year and a half, they're realizing, wait a minute, we don't have much leverage with the sequester after all. >> but the thing is, boehner did get 98% of what he wanted if you believe that he really wants spending cuts. >> right, exactly, but he doesn't want any spending cuts. he wants spending cuts in very specific programs. >> none in defense. >> not a penny. >> that is the main area they want to avoid, which is exactly why the president pushed to put the spending cuts in. they, as you point out, made a huge strategic error. they had much more power, much more momentum b
you're saying now, the debt ceiling showdown, you had a lot of republicans, leadership particularly who walked into this mess where they actually had their rank and file to do a debt default. they needed some way, any way out of it. so what the white house, the democrats put in front of them was the committee, the sequester, they were so happy to have any kind of lifeline, and john boehner comes out, pretends it is a victory, 98%, keeping the members in line. now here it is, a ticking time bomb...
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obama suggested it in negotiations in the debt ceiling in 2011 but now he doesn't want any domestic cuts. he's not somebody who wants cuts anywhere, anytime and this will be forced on him and on the pentagon cuts which he thought the republicans would avoid. he's the commander in chief. he has to worry about the forces, his own secretary of defense said we'll hollow out the forces and it will cost a lot of jobs of contractors, a lot of whom live in a state he wants, virginia. so he has to do something about this and it's unbelievable he would have offered the republicans a deal in which there are extra tax increases. republicans will do nothing and they should do nothing and demand if the president wants to avoid this, you do the cuts but do them somewhere else but no tax increases. >> charles lam, twice republicans have caved in to the demands of the white house and other democrats. do you think they'll do that again or will they do nothing? >> i prefer not to think of it as caving in. perhaps there's time for everyone to get reasonable. i agree with charles that the president's probabl
obama suggested it in negotiations in the debt ceiling in 2011 but now he doesn't want any domestic cuts. he's not somebody who wants cuts anywhere, anytime and this will be forced on him and on the pentagon cuts which he thought the republicans would avoid. he's the commander in chief. he has to worry about the forces, his own secretary of defense said we'll hollow out the forces and it will cost a lot of jobs of contractors, a lot of whom live in a state he wants, virginia. so he has to do...
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of the white house in order to raise the debt ceiling in 2011. >> but they now say it was the president who is responsible. >> exactly. they voted for this. >> and paul ryan runs a marathon in less than one hour. >> i thought it was like 20 minutes. he's superman. this is what they wanted. >> of course. congressman, here is another apparent contradiction you might like to clear up for us. on the one hand, you have eric cantor out there giving a speech on making life work. he sounds like tony robbins or something. he's trying to sell yet another iteration of the republican party, but when you strip away the soft smile and the cadence, he'd happily slash every one of those programs that you just went through, wouldn't he? >> oh, absolutely. eric cantor despite all of the covering in the near is definitely proposing budgets that are hostile to middle and low income people. and particularly to vulnerable people, but not only that, you know, programs like s.n.a.p. actually give people money they can spend at the store that allows the store to hire people. eventually the programs they cut wil
of the white house in order to raise the debt ceiling in 2011. >> but they now say it was the president who is responsible. >> exactly. they voted for this. >> and paul ryan runs a marathon in less than one hour. >> i thought it was like 20 minutes. he's superman. this is what they wanted. >> of course. congressman, here is another apparent contradiction you might like to clear up for us. on the one hand, you have eric cantor out there giving a speech on making...
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here is a chart of the spending cuts the democrats and republicans agreed to during the 2011 debt ceiling disaster, and it is $1.7 trillion in cuts. there is not a dime of new revenue there. here is the chart when you add the $737 billion in new revenue agreed to during the fiscal cliff deal. republicans are winning the battle, wouldn't you say, when it comes to balancing? over two-thirds of deficit reduction has come from cuts to domestic programs, and it's not exactly fair. but now the house progressive caucus has come out with what they call the balancing act. it's a common-sense plan to reduce the deficit by closing tax loopholes and cutting wasteful defense spending. here is the chart of the plan. there is $1.7 trillion in new revenue. the $1.7 trillion in spending cuts is still there. this looks like a much fairer chart than the current system, don't you think? and it's estimated to reduce the deficit by $3.3 trillion. remember, we're trying to hit $4 trillion. so we're getting closer. the plan ends tax loopholes for yachts and for jets. it reduces the corporate meal and entertainme
here is a chart of the spending cuts the democrats and republicans agreed to during the 2011 debt ceiling disaster, and it is $1.7 trillion in cuts. there is not a dime of new revenue there. here is the chart when you add the $737 billion in new revenue agreed to during the fiscal cliff deal. republicans are winning the battle, wouldn't you say, when it comes to balancing? over two-thirds of deficit reduction has come from cuts to domestic programs, and it's not exactly fair. but now the house...
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republicans have moved to the debt ceiling debate to may 18. you have all of these self- imposed economic wounds. we should be dealing with them all at once in a comprehensive manner. if we cannot deal with it for a 10 year period, deal with it for the remainder of the fiscal year. that is what the house democratic alternative did. we would replace the sequester with the hotel -- with deficit reduction achieved over a longer amount of time. host: ray locker is the national security editor with "usa today ." he is here to talk to us about the sequestration's affect on defense spending. what exactly is sequestration? guest: it means mandatory budget cuts. they were part of a 2011 deal that congress and the white house agreed to. they were worried about raising the national debt ceiling, which is $16.4 trillion. republicans hoped to try to force a general deduction of overall spending. it came down to this deal where it was they would do a supercommittee that would come up with a deal by the end of 2011. they did not. if they did not reach a deal
republicans have moved to the debt ceiling debate to may 18. you have all of these self- imposed economic wounds. we should be dealing with them all at once in a comprehensive manner. if we cannot deal with it for a 10 year period, deal with it for the remainder of the fiscal year. that is what the house democratic alternative did. we would replace the sequester with the hotel -- with deficit reduction achieved over a longer amount of time. host: ray locker is the national security editor with...
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they used it as a way to hold the debt ceiling to ransom. the only leverage they have is leverage to lower their poll ratings and lower the boom on the american economy. the cbo says if you do this, you won't get unemployment under 7.5% before 2015. you could actually push this economy back into another recession and republicans who use this strategy from 2009 on wrecked the economy to try to wreck obama, weren't able to sell that to the american people in 2012. they can't sell it to the american people now. and you can't rebrand yourself as a party if you're wearing the scarlet letter of deception and economic destruction. >> that's absolutely true. karen, republicans seem to think that they've got the president in a real bind over this sequester. take a listen to this. >> that's not fair. >> democrats are exactly where the republicans were six weeks ago. look, taxes were going up by law. the only question was were you going to negotiate a good package, save as many of the bush tax cuts as you could? >> karen, they're now saying republicans
they used it as a way to hold the debt ceiling to ransom. the only leverage they have is leverage to lower their poll ratings and lower the boom on the american economy. the cbo says if you do this, you won't get unemployment under 7.5% before 2015. you could actually push this economy back into another recession and republicans who use this strategy from 2009 on wrecked the economy to try to wreck obama, weren't able to sell that to the american people in 2012. they can't sell it to the...
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ceiling crisis. all of which are in front of us. to solve those, and resolve them s successfully for the country, the president does have to work with republicans. that's something he's had a hard time doing in his first term, and now it appears he doesn't want to work with them at all. and that's too bad. this isn't 2009. he doesn't have overwhelming majorities in both houses. to get something done, he'll have to bring a republican house on board to work with him, just like bill clinton did, it's not that hard to do. and he's going to have to work with a closely divided senate. so honestly, so far, we haven't seen much in terms of that tone or attitude. i'm hopeful we'll see a shift tonight, but frankly, i'm prepared to be disappointed. because i have been so far. >> well, congressman tom cole, thank you so much for coming on the program. >> thank you, chris. >>> the u.n. security council is holding an emergency meeting this morning after north korea's laterest nuclear test. early readings show this
ceiling crisis. all of which are in front of us. to solve those, and resolve them s successfully for the country, the president does have to work with republicans. that's something he's had a hard time doing in his first term, and now it appears he doesn't want to work with them at all. and that's too bad. this isn't 2009. he doesn't have overwhelming majorities in both houses. to get something done, he'll have to bring a republican house on board to work with him, just like bill clinton did,...
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as he did with the debt ceiling vote. as he did with the bill for hurricane sandy victims. as it came with the fiscal cliff agreement. i see that as a possibility with a gun control and immigration, because while republicans cannot be eager and willing to discuss the issues, pulling suggest that the house may have to pass something. i will meet democrats. host: -- they will need democrats. host: you say the election created a new deadline for the gop? guest: if they do not act on certain things, they may suffer bitter consequences at the polls, especially in those purple districts, areas where republicans are vulnerable. most of the congressional map has been drawn in favor of republicans and that served in congress. it has been difficult for house democrats to retake the house. history shows that in the final two years of an incumbent president's second term, it is impossible for his party to retake the majority in the house. but, they say, look, congress continues to behave as it did in the past two years, the public -- republicans will be blamed. when it comes to economi
as he did with the debt ceiling vote. as he did with the bill for hurricane sandy victims. as it came with the fiscal cliff agreement. i see that as a possibility with a gun control and immigration, because while republicans cannot be eager and willing to discuss the issues, pulling suggest that the house may have to pass something. i will meet democrats. host: -- they will need democrats. host: you say the election created a new deadline for the gop? guest: if they do not act on certain...
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ceiling once again. why is it that we send $700 million to cairo to rebuild their source systems? host: what else do you think about foreign policy? is there anything you want the president to talk about? caller: i more care about the infrastructure of this country and our jobs are being shipped overseas. i want to know what he will do to bring the jobs back. host: do you think we will hear concrete ideas in terms of jobs? the white house says there are four areas of interest -- manufacturing is one but infrastructure is another. jobs and how to build the economy are there. they say is a combination of all proposals he has tried to get passed in the four years and he does not had success. guest: i think the caller has the idea that a lot of our federal spending is being diverted to foreign aid. most people are surprised to learn that it is less than 1% of the budget. if you look at federal spending, the entitlement programs are putting a tremendous amount of pressure on the rest of government responsibil
ceiling once again. why is it that we send $700 million to cairo to rebuild their source systems? host: what else do you think about foreign policy? is there anything you want the president to talk about? caller: i more care about the infrastructure of this country and our jobs are being shipped overseas. i want to know what he will do to bring the jobs back. host: do you think we will hear concrete ideas in terms of jobs? the white house says there are four areas of interest -- manufacturing...
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. >> fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, immigration he said there's room but, look, republicans need to get religion on this. do you expect a similar tone in the state of the union? >> he has a limited amount of time. they feel they have a so-called m mandate from their victory not losing the senate. i think it's kind of full speed ahead for the president right now. he's going to go as bold as he can go, limited amount of time. i think i disagree a little bit on the economy. i think it's a course correction for him. i feel he's maybe second-guessing, not talking about the economy during his inaugural speech, now maybe i should have talked about that. >> which is fascinating because if you look at the first term in a lot of ways, you know, he started off -- you had a republican party that was largely kind of in the doldrums and he started off with economic stimulus and health care which united the party in some way. is he -- is he smart to refocus on the economy, jim? >> yes. >> and probably the more important question, is there actually -- we had angus king on saying there's common grou
. >> fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, immigration he said there's room but, look, republicans need to get religion on this. do you expect a similar tone in the state of the union? >> he has a limited amount of time. they feel they have a so-called m mandate from their victory not losing the senate. i think it's kind of full speed ahead for the president right now. he's going to go as bold as he can go, limited amount of time. i think i disagree a little bit on the economy. i think...
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we've worked through the debt ceiling pretty well, but when it comes to the sequester i think you've got a real problem here. the republicans might have leverage. obama doesn't seem to be ready to deal with that, and i don't know if the market is
we've worked through the debt ceiling pretty well, but when it comes to the sequester i think you've got a real problem here. the republicans might have leverage. obama doesn't seem to be ready to deal with that, and i don't know if the market is
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on the debt ceiling and they blinked again on the budget. and delaying the sequester. you are right. i think obama -- obama don't you get the sense obama feels that now? >> yeah. >> feels the power more? >> absolutely. >> or willing to use power more? >> and willing -- feels he can have, if they have an apocolyptic showdown he will win it. they feel that, too. they don't emerge from the fights stronger. if, god forbid, they go over one of these cliffs it totally cleared whoever has the stronger hand amid the crisis. it becomes about what are we restoring? it's one that favors the democrats. >> ben, great to have you in the studio. thank so much. any time you come down to washington, you are welcome here here. >> thank you for having me on. >> bill: might get you on the phone from new york. we love people in the studios. come back and see us. buzz feed.com. i will tell you what the president is up to today. busy schedule. >> this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv. [ music ] (vo) current tv gets the converstion started next. >> i'm a slutty bob h
on the debt ceiling and they blinked again on the budget. and delaying the sequester. you are right. i think obama -- obama don't you get the sense obama feels that now? >> yeah. >> feels the power more? >> absolutely. >> or willing to use power more? >> and willing -- feels he can have, if they have an apocolyptic showdown he will win it. they feel that, too. they don't emerge from the fights stronger. if, god forbid, they go over one of these cliffs it totally...
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that was an exchange for republicans agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. and january 1st, the fiscal cliff deal, decided to push it off for 60 days and now here we are. under the terms of the earlier budget deals, now must find $85 billion somewhere by march 1st otherwise pentagon spending will shrink. and medicare will take a 2% reduction. the president and democrats prefer an option that raises more money by closing tax loopholes. republicans want to stick with spending cuts saying they've already agreed to tax hikes. 448,000 jobs in dc, maryland and virginia could be affected. concerned about the impact on our economy. >> sequestration will hurt not only the defense side but the nondefense side. my committee funds the fbi. there will probably be furloughs at the fbi and the national cancer institute, nih. defense and nondefense. >> that hurts the broader economy. people are concerned about their jobs and don't know the impact on their bank accounts. that holds them from spending on movies and restaurants and theaters. thinks he has time to buy a little
that was an exchange for republicans agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. and january 1st, the fiscal cliff deal, decided to push it off for 60 days and now here we are. under the terms of the earlier budget deals, now must find $85 billion somewhere by march 1st otherwise pentagon spending will shrink. and medicare will take a 2% reduction. the president and democrats prefer an option that raises more money by closing tax loopholes. republicans want to stick with spending cuts saying they've...
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' fangs with respect to the debt ceiling. that's probably the big risk that the market was worried about. >> you made recent changes to your 2013 allocation strategy. some of them are interesting. high volatility u.s. large caps and micro cap stocks. it would seem you're increasing the beta place. when you say u.s. large cap volatile stocks, what do you mean by that? >> well, we believe that there's an evolution in the asset classes that investors are going to be tapping into in the next decade. you know, if you look back over the last 20 years, people spent a lot of time arguing, what was the value stock, what was a growth stock. and a lot of times it was in the eye of the beholder. volatility is a much more objective mesh yasure of what a stock is. you can do very good long term, 80 and 90-year analysis of what this asset class means. and right now, we show high volatility stocks have been beaten down very, very much in the rally, relative to low volatility, sort of bond proxy stocks. that suggests to us that they're one of
' fangs with respect to the debt ceiling. that's probably the big risk that the market was worried about. >> you made recent changes to your 2013 allocation strategy. some of them are interesting. high volatility u.s. large caps and micro cap stocks. it would seem you're increasing the beta place. when you say u.s. large cap volatile stocks, what do you mean by that? >> well, we believe that there's an evolution in the asset classes that investors are going to be tapping into in the...
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supposedly conservative issues like the debt ceiling and fiscal cliff. he is still right in there with more of the highbound tea-party issues. whether it's rand paul or paul ryan for 2016 and i know people want to throw up when they start thinking about 2016 already, but there's a new generation of republican leaders that are jockeying for position and he is a moderate on certain issues. >> i want to put up your magazine cover, and i want to put up your international cover as well. this is -- this is the international cover here. marco rub yo and the next america. no savior mention here. >> we chose that cover line, because, yeah, the switching that is going on right now. we did not think that marco rubio was a internationally famous figure, the way that he is a nationally famous figure. and we wanted to highlight the long-term demographic trends that is taking place in the america. where it's more multi-culture society. one more finally tuned to immigration. that is something that "time" can do as a global brand. >> we will go with that explanation. >>
supposedly conservative issues like the debt ceiling and fiscal cliff. he is still right in there with more of the highbound tea-party issues. whether it's rand paul or paul ryan for 2016 and i know people want to throw up when they start thinking about 2016 already, but there's a new generation of republican leaders that are jockeying for position and he is a moderate on certain issues. >> i want to put up your magazine cover, and i want to put up your international cover as well. this...
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just quickly, he refused -- voted against raising the debt ceiling. he co-sponsored the old balanced budget amendment, which is a total shuck and jive. he signed the grover norquist finds. he backed florida's voter purge back to rick so -- backed rick scott in trying to get all of those people, a lot of them racial minorities off of the ballot in florida. he opposed federal action to heavy prevent violence against women act, extension of it t he believes employers should be able to deny birth control to their employees. he made some robo calls for an anti-hate group opposing same-sex marriage, marriage equality. and he doesn't believe in climate change. in fact, this week at the interview that he gave with buzzfeed's ben smith -- remember ben smith was in studio with us a couple of days talking about that interview, marco rubio said, on climate change he just thinks it's too expensive. >> number one, even if anything we would do on that would have a real impact on our economy, but probably if it's only us doing it, a very negligible impact on the envi
just quickly, he refused -- voted against raising the debt ceiling. he co-sponsored the old balanced budget amendment, which is a total shuck and jive. he signed the grover norquist finds. he backed florida's voter purge back to rick so -- backed rick scott in trying to get all of those people, a lot of them racial minorities off of the ballot in florida. he opposed federal action to heavy prevent violence against women act, extension of it t he believes employers should be able to deny birth...
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i mean, the sequester, the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff, all these things are not so much real problems as they are manufactured partisan problems. but underneath them, you have this real problem which is basically the republicans won the debate on taxes, and the democrats have won the debate on the safety net. and as a result, that's sort of the deficit that we have. and the question is how can we solve it? and history suggests economic growth is the best way, but this deficit is also big enough in the long term that it's probably not going to be enough. and we need some combination of spending cuts and tax increases as well. >> yeah, how do we make that happen, sam? >> i was going to say, part of the problem is the tax revenue problem, which is that you don't have enough people making good incomes, paying good taxes, which is used to fund the social safety net that we value very highly. but it's also a health spending problem in that we spend a of d a lot of that's end of life health as well. one of the curious things about the health care debate when we're through, there's a huge bac
i mean, the sequester, the debt ceiling, fiscal cliff, all these things are not so much real problems as they are manufactured partisan problems. but underneath them, you have this real problem which is basically the republicans won the debate on taxes, and the democrats have won the debate on the safety net. and as a result, that's sort of the deficit that we have. and the question is how can we solve it? and history suggests economic growth is the best way, but this deficit is also big enough...